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Fall Creek Watershed Committee Minutes
September 7, 2000
4-H Acres
Submitted by Betty Wien
Present: Yvette de Boer (presiding), Joyce Gerbasi, Steve
Penningroth, Phil Koons, Deb Grantham, Betty Wien

Steve Penningroth asked for feedback from the committee for the
proposal dated 8/15/00 which was handed out at our last meeting
(8/23/00). There were no comments.
Yvette reported that she had contacted the executive director of
the Park Foundation to find out if the Foundation would (in principle)
fund this type of grant proposal. The executive director made two
points:
- We must have a 501c3 status before we can apply.
- She was concerned that we are not working more closely with
the Cayuga Lake Watershed Network (CLWN) on this.
Steve suggested that we talk to the CLWN. We reviewed the relationship
between the Fall Creek Watershed Committee (FCWC) and CLWN as put
forth in the resolution adopted 11/11/99 by the Board of Directors
of the Cayuga Lake Watershed Network. There was a consensus that
we should ask for time on a CLWN meeting agenda to explain what
we are doing, overall, and specifically with regard to the WAG proposal.
We reviewed the draft of the proposal which Sharon Anderson had
prepared. There were a few suggestions, but overall, it is a good
proposal. We focused on getting more groups agreeing to collaborate
on this before Sept. 14 so that we can list them on the proposal
we submit. Deb Grantham will contact the Town and Village of Dryden.
Betty Wien will contact Audrey Edelman Associates, Etna Community
Association and NYSEG. Betty reported that Roxy Johnston is contacting
CLWN and Sharon is contacting Roots and Shoots of Cornell).
- League of Women Voters environmental committee
- Town of Virgil
- Dryden High School - Rick Winters' student nature group
- Tony Hall - Dryden Courier
- A group of birders which has done clean-ups in other birding
territories - contact Rachel Dickenson
- What will we do about waivers of liability? Does Cooperative
Extension have forms for participants and property owners?
- Should parents sign waivers for minors?
Phil announced that there will be a stream clean-up along the Tioughnioga
River on Saturday, Sept. 16. Participants will meet at 8:30 AM at
the Grange Building, located off of Clinton Avenue next to Wendy's
in Cortland, and groups will proceed to the clean-up sites from
there. The organizer is Ella Emmick of the Cortland County Soil
and Water Conservation District.
Steve had talked to Pat Reidy of the Cortland Soil and Water Conservation
in regard to questions we had asked earlier about monitoring information
we might collect: Would he be a potential user of our information
and what kinds of information should we collect? Pat said Kate Hackett
and Jose Lozano are putting together a sampling and analysis plan.
Pat is willing to come and talk to the FCWC in October or later.
We agreed to have Steve invite Pat to speak to us on October 5,
from 7-8 PM. Steve will report Pat's response to Sharon and Yvette.
We should have publicity inviting other people to hear Pat speak.
Questions were raised about the location of the meeting: Will the
dog training in progress during tonight's meeting in the next room
at 4-H Acres be continuing throughout the fall? If so, should we
meet somewhere else where barking won't interfere with our meeting?
Members are asked to check the minutes of June 27, 2000, to see
who agreed to talk to which potential users. Joyce has attempted
to talk to Steve Eidt of DEC RIBS, but he has not returned her calls.
Now, Deb Grantham will try to reach him.
We used sections of the final draft (Jan., 2000) version of the
Pennsylvania Citizens Monitoring Program handbook as a model. The
forms are found in the handbook's Appendix 6, starting with pg A6-2.
(Taken from the CLWN resolution adopted 11/11/99): Fall Creek is
the largest single watershed contributory to Cayuga Lake. Our goal
is to promote the understanding of how to maintain and improve the
ecological health, economic vitality and overall beauty of the watershed.
- Monitoring
- Stream clean-up
- Investigating levels of erosion
- Speaker series to promote awareness
- Reduce erosion
- Get baseline data on water quality
- Identify problem areas
- Increase education/awareness of the public
- Improve water quality
- Address the problems that are discovered
Yes, but not officially
Fall, 1999
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Waters of Interest (list major rivers, tributaries, lakes,
ponds, etc.):
Lake Como, Fall Creek, Virgil Creek, Eaton Brook, Mill Creek,
Dryden Lake, Monkey Run (?), Beebe Lake, Webster Brook, Beaver
Creek, Mud Creek
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Watershed/Drainage Area/Communities:
Communities: Lake Como Community, Ithaca, McLean, Etna, Varna,
Freeville, Forest Home, Virgil, Dryden Village, Dryden Town,
Sempronius (?)
Counties: Cayuga, Cortland, Tompkins
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Land use types (% in each, if known):
Information presented in the WAG proposal: Forest, 50%; Agriculture,
30%; Residential, 7%; remaining 13% - ?
Drainage Lists - Yvette will bring the drainage lists for water
bodies in NYS to use in place of the PA lists
- Stream of interest - Fall Creek. It is 30 miles long (from WAG
proposal)
- Water Uses Protected - this was not addressed
- Actual Uses and Values (from your own experience) - Recreation,
Fishing, Boating, Swimming; Drinking Water

NEXT FCWC MEETING: October 5, 2000
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